FFS, could we all agree that this war (like most others) is completely wrong and could we please look at talks to stop murdering the innocent for the sake of global politics ?
Let's try to see what I've actually said shall we, please.
Your post said...
(Scawen you given the best and most logical discussion on this topic. Il be honest and don't care if dfgjkl agrees or not , but i think he just shows how well Putins propoganda has worked.)
And then...
(If you actually understood what i had replied to scawen, it was kind of in defense of dfgjkl)
And I said that...
It's all very pointless but you do seem to be attached to being right. Which is a conversation I seem to have often with uninformed people who can only see their their own point of view.
Their are two sides to this conflict and I strongly suggest that you try to understand this fact.
And I have said, in an earlier post that you may not have read.....
"Russia, you are wrong doing this, even though I have posted information saying why you are threatened and feel you have to do this."
Grow up, there are two sides to every conflict, propaganda is a two way street.......
Or does you're media only give you honest and truthful information ?
See my earlier posts, some of us understand that it's all about globalism and all we want is communication and an agreement about spheres of influence and boundaries of control.
NATO want's domination and war, not really the best choice for world peace, If the West backs off with control over the Ukraine (insert peace talks here) then this war wouldn't happen.
We can all work together, (see my other post's on this subject)
Scrawen, this is a conversation and it needs everyone to be involved. Yes, I've spent a great deal of time disagreeing with people I have felt are completely wrong with their warmongering views but that's no reason to not engage, even after me being stood down from the forum because some snowflake felt my views were extreme and hurt their feelings.
Hang in there and tell them how wrong they are, we need to communicate to all move forward.
Russia, you are wrong doing this, even though I have posted information saying why you are threatened and feel you have to do this.
Answer.... It's complicated and we should try to all work together.
I'm really happy to see this opposition to war, shame it didn't happen with previous invasions of independent territory earlier but that's history and can't be changed.
Hopefully people are awakening to how wrong murdering people to gain economic advantage is and this awakened view will lead us forward to a more peaceful world when we can focus on how humanity can work together for our advantage and future.
This is a history of the Ukraine (Aug 2020) that may help to inform people of history, an interest of mine for many years. https://youtu.be/zJvz3Ai9Ppw
EDIT by Scawen:
Thank you for the contribution.
Please, when posting a link, can you provide some supporting text?
Even if you are not adding your opinion, it's helpful for people to know what they are clicking.
In this case I have added some text: Video "Reasons for Failure? Russian Air Force in Ukraine" by "Military Aviation History"